The Haesy Podcast: Recent Episodes

Carly R Metcalf

We are two dietitians who believe in a Health at Every Size (HAES) approach. Our episodes involve talk about eating disorders, how to prevent them, our struggles with diet culture and interviews with change makers who give us a deeper understanding of the HAES concept.

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In this episode we reflect on our last episode with Dr. Anita Johnston and talk about our biggest takeaways. Carly talks about the metaphors that really made her think and Jo discusses the third energy that she is working to find in her own life. Let Carly and Jo know how you like the episode by leaving a rating and review. We hope you enjoy the episode!


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Dr. Anita Johnston is an eating psychology pioneer, author of the book "Eating in the Light of the Moon," Executive director of Eating Disorder Program for Integrative Life Center in Nashville, co-founder of Ai Pono eating disorder treatment facilities in Hawaii, Creator of online groups & courses at Light of the Moon Cafe, and of course, part-time mermaid and island girl. In this episode we discuss the deeper meaning behind food and body struggles. Anita also shares some of her profound wisdom through the use of story-telling and metaphors. She shares many of her resources including skills for cracking the code with food and assertive communication. It was an enlightening experience to have her on, and we hope you get as much out of listening to it as we did recording it! Her piece with the MOMA: https://www.moma.org/collection/works/78677 Her website: https://dranitajohnston.com/ Her online workshops & other resources: https://lightofthemooncafe.com/ Instagram Wisdom: https://www.instagram.com/dranitajohnston/ Resource: Cracking The Hunger Code Quiz - you can also find a PDF for this at Light Of The Moon Cafe: https://lightofthemooncafe.com/quiz/ Assertive Communication Outline: https://lightofthemooncafe.com/assertive-communication/


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This week we talk to the amazing, Julie Duffy Dillon all about PCOS, health, why diets don't work, and more! Julie believes in never promoting diets or rigid eating. She states on her website that, "The scale does not monitor progress rather mood, lab values and quality of life portray a better outlook of continued success. I want clients to experience meetings to be nonjudgemental and compassionate with permission to heal on your their own terms. The supportive environment provides a special space free of body judgment and food policing. Instead, all clients have unconditional permission to eat what is pleasurable in their present body no matter the size." Please join us as we pick Julie's amazing RD brain for more info.

You can find Julie at: Juliedillonrd.com

Download the PCOS Roadmap: https://juliedillonrd.com/great-news-for-pcos-sufferers-there-is-another-way/

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Let's talk feminine energy. In this episode we discuss and introduce the term "feminine energy" in relation to energy, food, and our cultural ideas about the term. This episode is not just for women, or women identifying people. After listening, we hope you feel empowered to harness your feminine energy and find a balance in your health journey.

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Aaron is the first male guest we have ever had on the show! In this episode, he shares his body story and how he came to find HAES and become a Certified Body Trust® Provider. Aaron has a private practice in Calabasas, CA and also facilitates online support groups for men and for providers struggling with their own eating and body image issues.  If you want to hear more from Aaron check out his amazing podcast, Dietitians Unplugged To work with Aaron or just find out more about all of the amazing work that he does, check out his website Find & follow Aaron on Instagram here

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In this episode, Carly and Jo respond to some listeners answers to questions about the Body Positive movement that they asked on their Instagram @Haesypodcast. They discuss the pros/cons, difference between being body positive and being HAES aligned, and everything in between. Enjoy!


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In this episode we sat down and went over the Intuitive Eating Assessment in the Intuitive Eating Workbook (which you can purchase on Amazon here).

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Today we have Alexa Barney on our podcast to talk to us about her experience with dieting, diet culture, exercise, food, life as a dietetic/masters student, and disordered eating. We laugh, get serious, talk about capitalism, and learn with Alexa. We hope you enjoy! 

Alexa's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cabernetandcarrots/


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Today we talk with Lauren Hansen regarding Holiday eating, recovery, and boundary setting. Lauren is a HAES aligned intuitive eating and body acceptance coach, providing 1:1 intensive sessions. You can find her on Instagram at @living.as.lauren or via her website at https://www.liveasyouwellness.com. You can also find the Tips and tools for handling eating disorders around the holidays at https://news.llu.edu/health-wellness/tips-and-tools-for-handling-eating-disorders-around-holidays 

Instagram accounts recommended by Lauren:

@heytiffanyroe

@the.lovelybecoming

@bodyimage_therapist

@fatpositivetherapy

@yrfatfriend

@laurenleavellfitness

@theshirarose

@meg.boggs

@fatgirlflow

@stephanieyeboah

@raffela_mancuso

@bodyimagewithbri

@bodypositive_dietitian

@tiffanyima

@bodyliberationwithlindley

@themilitantbaker

@virgietovar

@find.food.freedom

@drrachelmillner

@fierce.fatty

@kneadtotalk

@dietitiananna

@sassy_latte

@Jennifer_rollin

@danielleisanxious

@scarrednotscared

@curvynyome

@fullbodiedbekah


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In this episode Jo and Carly talk with Abby from A Body Well Fed on Instagram about living with an Eating Disorder, remission, and the basic trials and tribulations of life. Enjoy!

TW: eating disorders, disordered eating

Instagram: @a_body_well_fed


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In this episode we talk to Mariah Stout, a registered dietitian with a new diagnosis of prediabetes. She shares some of her history with an eating disorder and talks to us about navigating her new diagnosis through the lens of Intuitive Eating and HAES. 


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In this episode,  Megan Jo and Carly discuss the highs of their summer as well as some of the lessons they've learned through the lows. You get to know Megan Jo and Carly on a deeper level and some of the experiences they've had during the Covid-19 Pandemic. Listen as they discuss topics that give you a deeper understanding of Health At Every Size, Intuitive Eating, and The Body Positive Movement. 

Follow us on Instagram: @Haesypodcast

Article discussed in this episode: https://emilydiscovers.com/2020/06/13/the-history-of-body-positivity/


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Kimmie Singh (she/her) is a fantastic human being, and we are so grateful we got the opportunity to connect with her!  Kimmie earned her Bachelor of Science in physics from St. John’s University. Soon after graduating, Kimmie discovered her passion for Intuitive Eating and weight-inclusive nutrition. She went on to pursue her Master of Science of nutrition from The University of North Carolina at Greensboro. Kimmie completed her dietetic internship at The City University of New York-Hunter College. has presented at various national and regional conferences on the harmful effects of weight stigma in healthcare and eating disorder treatment, food insecurity and eating disorder recovery, and weight inclusivity in dietetics training. She also co-hosted the PCOS and Food Peace podcast with Julie Duffy Dillon, RD. Kimmie is currently the treasurer for the Association for Size Diversity and Health and an active member of the International Federation of Eating Disorder Dietitians. Kimmie is a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist at LK Nutrition, a Health at Every Size® nutrition private practice based in New York City that supports people with eating disorders, disordered eating, and anyone seeking for support in healing their relationship with food and body. Instagram: www.instagram.com/bodypositive_dietitian Personal Website: www.bodypositivedietitian.com Her work with LK Nutrition: www.lknutrition.com/kimmie-singh

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RanDee Anshutz is a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist, Licensed Massage Therapist, and also the founder/owner of Synergy Health and Wellness, where she and her colleges specialize in promoting Health at Every Size and resuming body trust.

RanDee's work started largely steeped in the traditional weight loss paradigm, because that’s what she was taught in academia, but after time applying the ideas to “human subjects” she recognized a few things:

  • Dieting or restricting, in any form, does not work. The pursuit of weight loss or controlling the size of our body causes more harm than good.
  • Instead, a self care practice that is rooted in compassion and intuition can lead to improvements in metabolic health, regardless of one’s body size.
  • Because she is a health care provider, this pursuit of health is much more congruent with her ethics.

After working in healthcare for over 20 years, RanDee has learned that nothing is more powerful than connection. When we connect we learn, understand, and grow. She continues to create a space where you are free to connect—with her, her team of providers, and with each other. Whatever feels right for you, and whatever pace is right for you—RanDee and her team have got your back.

If you want to find out more about the amazing work that RanDee does, check out her website and her Instagram

https://www.synergyhealthbend.com/

https://www.instagram.com/synergybend/


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This week we have a conversation with Fat Fertility Coach, Nicola Salmon. We discuss the issues with traditional ways of thinking about fertility and health, as well as how to heal your relationship with your body. 

Some of the things discussed in this episode and how to find Nicola Salmon:

  • Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez is a great book about the data of women that we spoke about. She talks about medicine.

  • The book that I couldn't remember - Sweetening the pill by Holly Grigg-Spall

  • Some awesome books about periods - Period Power by Maisie Hill, Heavy Flow by Amanda Laird and Code Red by Lisa Lister

www.instagram.com/fatpositivefertility

www.facebook.com/fatpositivefertility

www.nicolasalmon.co.uk

http://nicolasalmon.co.uk/fat-and-fertile-book/


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Thanks for listening to The Haesy Podcast! Here are some notes from our show today and where to find our guest:

Nutrition Dejunked: https://nutritiondejunked.com/

Instagram: @Nutritiondejunked

Resources Mentioned: 

https://www.rocknrollbride.com/

https://amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jul/21/my-wedding-perfect-fat-woman?fbclid=IwAR2Lsa7vPuxzR4w3FEuQPUu1F6Q8xfFo5w-N5ElRU7PbKqkvZjSBydXtgGc


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This week we felt it unnecessary to release a full episode, instead we wanted to share some amazing black voices, writers, education and events that are changing the world.

Jemele Hill is Unbothered, a podcast with award-winning journalist Jemele Hill

Hear to Slay, “the black feminist podcast of your dreams, with Roxanne Gay and Tressie McMillan Cottom

WATCH these following shows/movies :

13th (Netflix)

King In The Wilderness (HBO)

The Hate Y Give (Cinemax)

When They See Us (Netflix)

📚READ these books:

White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo

How To Be an Anti-Racist by Ingram X. Kendi

The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander

LISTEN to these Podcasts:

1619 (New York Times)

About Race

Code Switch

Momentum: A Race Forward Podcast

Seeing White

LISTEN to these Podcasts:

1619 (New York Times)

About Race

Code Switch

Momentum: A Race Forward Podcast

Seeing White

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An opportunity/event for white members seeking anti-racist education:

"A Conversation for White People to Reconnect to Our Spirit and Our Humanity to Interrupt White Supremacy"

Wednesday, June 10th

1 pm pt/2 pm mt/3 pm ct/4 pm et (2 hours)

Wednesday, June 10th

1 pm pt/2 pm mt/3 pm ct/4 pm et (2 hours)

Info -

To Our White Friends,

We need a critical mass of white people to join in a radical awakening to interrupt white supremacy. We need to reconnect to our spirit and our humanity, the deep knowing that human beings are interconnected to one another and to all living beings.

We are inviting white people into an interactive conversation on Wednesday, June 10th for two hours. We will address the impact of white supremacy and illusions of separateness. We will engage in small interactive conversations on prompts:

· How have you personally benefited from white supremacy?

· How have we contributed to a state of being that has led to our white culture of domination, extraction, and violence?

· What if spirit and humanity were prioritized by our ancestors, what different choices might have emerged? How do we repair and heal all that has gone wrong?

If these questions resonate with you, we invite you into the conversation.

Kelly Miller, Idaho Coalition Against Sexual & Domestic Violence

Ed Heisler, Men As Peacemakers

Karen Tronsgard-Scott, Vermont Network Against Domestic & Sexual Violence

Kristen Zimmerman, Kristen Zimmerman Consulting

Aimee Thompson, Resonance Network

https://events.r20.constantcontact.com/register/eventReg?oeidk=a07eh4l38roa5321058&oseq&c&ch&fbclid=IwAR34hzAypt0OufMOoWfZXTLkXjD0UthY99YL1btITf8K5sQRa2UON8mXZE4

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Brittani Lancaster rose to TikTok fame when one of her dances went viral early this year. She then realized that there were more important things she wanted to share on the app. She is the Queen of "What I Eat in a Day in Recovery From an Eating Disorder" and "Balance is Key". Listen as we unpack all the details of her life before TikTok and how she feels about the newly found fame. 

TikTok: @brittanilancaster

Instagram: @brittanilancaster 


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This week Carly and Jo start by reminiscing about the past 12 episodes and what they have gained through doing this podcast. They also respond to some of the common questions and rebuttals that people have regarding intuitive eating and HAES. 

  1. If I only ate what I was craving, I would sit around and eat donuts and candy all day!

  2. I don't care what people think of me. I just want to lose weight for myself.

  3. A doctor told me that I have to lose weight, so I don't have the privilege of looking at food that way.

If you enjoyed this episode and haven't already, please give a listen to our past episodes, find and follow us on Instagram @haesypodcast (https://www.instagram.com/haesypodcast/), and like and comment wherever you get your podcasts! 


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Megs is a writer, empowerment photographer and mamma based out of Alberta, Canada. Marrying her passion for creating a safe space for women, and photography she has dubbed herself an empowerment photographer - with the aim to uplift, inspire, and encourage women everywhere. Tune in to find out more!

Instagram: @__mephoto

Facebook: @mephotoss or Me Photo


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In this week's episode, we spoke with "OG" Health At Every Size dietitian, Rhonda O'Brien. Rhonda has been practicing as a HAES dietitian since 1991, and she makes a great case as to why HAES and Intuitive Eating are the RIGHT way to go! She also explains how Intuitive Eating and diabetes fit together so well, and why shame has no place in the in the health game.

To find out more about Rhonda and the work that she does, check out her website: http://www.dietfreeidaho.com/


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In this episode we talk with Jess Maitri, owner and creator of Yothera in Boise, Idaho. We get to know Jess a bit more, where she comes from and how she became the entrepreneur, LCSW, yoga therapist, and Breathwork practitioner that she is today. Take a listen and don't forget to rate and review!

How to find Jess:

Website:  https://yothera.com

Offerings: https://yothera.com/offerings

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKKwjYtzWJdpbdYDZSI8beg

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yothera_alchemy/


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This is part two of our two-part interview with Amy Pence-Brown. Amy Pence-Brown is a fat feminist mother who believes in opening her mouth and her heart. From both of these places she tells stories – as a writer on her blog and other local & national publications, as a historian and adjunct faculty speaking and teaching, and as a visual artist creating subversive stitchings and performance pieces. She’s been a body image activist for the past decade and recently became internationally known for her radical stand for self-love at the Capital City Public Market in Boise, Idaho in 2015, which was documented in a blog post, photographs and a video viewed over 200 million times. Her message about the value of all bodies, no matter their size, has been covered by numerous media outlets, including CNN, USA Today, Cosmopolitan, People, TODAY, Huffington Post, Upworthy, HLN, the Dr. Oz show, SHAPE, xo Jane, TIME and Fitness magazine. She continues to lead the body positive revolution through public speaking and education, including on the TEDx stage, to students young and old, and the Boise Rad Fat Collective, a radical group of 2,300 people of all ages, sizes, colors, genders and nationalities. She also leads RADCAMP: A Body Positive Boot Camp for Feminists and Feminist Teens, Be RAD! Be YOU! A Body Image Workshop for Girls aged 10-12, builds school gardens on the Boise Bench as a school garden coordinator and was named one of the 50 Idaho Women of the Year by the Idaho Business Review in 2017. Learn more about Amy's work and follow her on social media:

Website: https://www.amypencebrown.com/

Facebook fan page: https://www.facebook.com/idahostyle/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/IdahoAmy

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/idaho_amy/

Amy's stand for self love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJyqP_u5sHs&feature=youtu.be

Amy's talk on the TEDx stage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnTLFlQ419s


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This is part one of our two-part interview with Amy Pence-Brown. Amy Pence-Brown is a fat feminist mother who believes in opening her mouth and her heart. From both of these places she tells stories – as a writer on her blog and other local & national publications, as a historian and adjunct faculty speaking and teaching, and as a visual artist creating subversive stitchings and performance pieces. She’s been a body image activist for the past decade and recently became internationally known for her radical stand for self-love at the Capital City Public Market in Boise, Idaho in 2015, which was documented in a blog post, photographs and a video viewed over 200 million times. Her message about the value of all bodies, no matter their size, has been covered by numerous media outlets, including CNN, USA Today, Cosmopolitan, People, TODAY, Huffington Post, Upworthy, HLN, the Dr. Oz show, SHAPE, xo Jane, TIME and Fitness magazine. She continues to lead the body positive revolution through public speaking and education, including on the TEDx stage, to students young and old, and the Boise Rad Fat Collective, a radical group of 2,300 people of all ages, sizes, colors, genders and nationalities. She also leads RADCAMP: A Body Positive Boot Camp for Feminists and Feminist Teens, Be RAD! Be YOU! A Body Image Workshop for Girls aged 10-12, builds school gardens on the Boise Bench as a school garden coordinator and was named one of the 50 Idaho Women of the Year by the Idaho Business Review in 2017. Learn more about Amy and follow her on social media:

Website: https://www.amypencebrown.com/

Facebook fan page: https://www.facebook.com/idahostyle/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/IdahoAmy

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/idaho_amy/

Amy's stand for self love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJyqP_u5sHs&feature=youtu.be

Amy's talk on the TEDx stage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnTLFlQ419s


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Claire Chewning is an anti-diet registered dietitian, social media queen, and a serious PB&J enthusiast. She discusses growing up in a food-positive environment, taking on stricter food rules while studying nutrition in her undergraduate program, and breaking free from those food rules and re-adopting intuitive eating.  Check out this episode and get to know more about Claire and the amazing work she does by following the links below! Claire's Website: https://clairechewning.com/ Podcast: https://clairechewning.com/podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/clairechewning/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clairechewning Facebook Support Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1933119400043415/


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In this episode, Abby Douglas talks about privilege, being a Health at Every Size dietitian, Intuitive Eating w/ diabetes, and much more! Take a listen!


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In this episode we talk with Danielle Basye, a Registered Dietitian in Boise Idaho about her journey from disordered eating and body image issues, to now helping others overcome their own struggles.  

Ancel Keys Study: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4830a1box.htm


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In this episode we dive deeper into what intuitive eating is and discuss how we practice its 10 principles. We also talk about the current COVID-19 pandemic and how it affects our intuitive eating practices.


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In this episode, we respond to questions asked by Jillian Michaels, personal trainer from "The Biggest Loser" about the singing goddess, Lizzo. "Why are we celebrating her body? Why does it matter? Why aren't we celebrating her music? 'Cause it isn't gonna be awesome if she gets diabetes."

fatphoic #fatshaming #allbodiesaregoodbodies #Lizzo #diversity


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This episode is all about Carly's story. From the struggles of growing up around dieting to how it manifested as a young woman in college and now as a dietitian with a Health at Every Size lens. She shares it all right here!

https://www.eatingdisorderhope.com/blog/anorexia-ocd-link-between-them


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In this episode Megan Jo Olson, one of the hosts of the HAESY podcast tells her story of how she began down the path of an eating disorder and how she now is on the other side of that as a Health at Every Size dietitian. We talk about statistics of eating disorders in the Registered Dietitian community and the struggles that come with our education. 


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