Well May We Say: Recent Episodes

Jeremy Sear

Join us each week as we discuss what's happening to our country and why...

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00:01:03 Nick Kar-l and the bulldozer

00:05:07 CGT changes FINALLY something that will shift the needle

00:10:24 Hughesy and Nick not BFFs

00:13:56 You're welcome

00:17:26 The importance of the SMSF change and the disaster of leaving new builds to investors

00:33:20 Where do we want prices? Stagnating, while wages catch up

00:37:14 Stop pandering to right wing framing

00:47:56 You can be angry

00:49:01 You Don't Have To Be A Bad Person

01:08:28 How to spot the snake oil a*sehole

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00:01:59 A listener's fauve-rites (Off the Rails already)

00:03:34 Back on the Rails

00:04:30 RBA raises interest rates expressly to stop unemployment falling (note: to stop it FALLING, not rising), and nobody takes accountability for the awful call

00:20:03 "Let's do the Budget" - Labor remembers capital gains should be taxed, but undermines it by grandfathering everthing and also, you know, brutalising people on the NDIS and starving the poor.

00:28:29 Why incentivising investors to build new houses is an awful idea - they'll stick Australia with shitty rental-quality "new" housing stock for decades

00:39:45 The media campaign to revive the LNP

00:42:18 Angus shows that the LNP would somehow be even worse - promising to whack permanent residents by cutting them off from access to services their taxes pay for; bringing back an indexation policy so bad that Johnny Howard had to undo it when he was Fraser's treasurer...

00:44:40 Australia becomes a new front in the war on trans people - but first, some good news with Giggle v Tickle (No 2)

00:48:55 She could have been Amanda Mander and a man demander, but alas

00:50:00 The "genocidists' hurt feelings" royal commission

00:52:36 The brave flotilla heroes

00:55:30 call for more heroic tales

00:56:06 Stupid dispatches from FART island

01:05:39 Angus's mindless and deeply embarrassing war on trans people

01:06:19 "Define it!" say morons who can't come up with a definition themselves

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Amy and Tom join Nick and Jeremy to celebrate how much Australia has improved over 200 episodes of WMWS!

Featuring

  • The ALP finally going to tax gas exports so Australia gets some revenue from those resources! (^1)

  • The ALP finally undoing Howard's tax changes that broke housing! (^2)

  • Racists finally feeling shame again (^3)

  • Further progress in BRS finally facing accountability (^4)

  • Real Labor - a way around the problem of potential left voters who hate the word "Green"? (^5)

^1 Actually not happening.

^2 Ah, yeah, not happening either.

^3 Okay actually they got support from the national media

^4 Fine, actually being criminally charged made the media suddenly forget the Federal Court already found he did this shit

^5 Only Jeremy liked this idea

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Jeremy, Mike and Nick discuss

  • fake "anti-corruption" commissions

  • fake "labor" parties

  • fake "Australians"

And HOW TO CHANGE THE WORLD

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How did we get here? Where did it all go wrong? On the thirtieth anniversary of the ascendancy of the lying rodent, Amy Remeikis joins Jeremy and Nick to discuss how all the stuff you're angry about was set in place by the country's worst prime minister (fight us).

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On Monday 9 February 2026, the Australian government wants you to stay home as they welcome an advocate for an ongoing genocide and give him and his far right government a PR tour built on the graves of the victims of Bondi.

Does Well May We Say recommend you staying home and doing what you're told? Do you even have to ask?

Warning: may contain traces of outrage.

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02:48 Oh, they decided to let the ghouls have a free run - Labor folds and sets fire to basic civil liberties in an unsurprisingly pathetic attempt to appease the far right

08:18 Albo's redefinition of anti-semitism own goal

17:31 What "international rules based order". US declares "might makes right".

35:10 Where was the left when the right had a free run at the government over the New Year break?

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A short episode recorded in concern about those trying to use a horrific tragedy to somehow make things even worse.

  • Despite their efforts, finally some action on the holes in the gun laws?

  • Maybe it's time for Albanese to sack the current so-called "anti-semitism envoy" and replace her with one who's actually concerned with stopping anti-semitism, and not just silencing criticism of genocide? idk something to think about

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00:01:40 Prohibition of social media for under 16s. Sure, it might not protect kids from harm, and likely make the problem worse, but it's what News Corp wanted, so surely they'll be kind to us now?

00:16:15 Oh no after the tax cuts we're running out of money! Well, there's only one thing to do, and it's not reverse those tax cuts. The Ratchet!

00:29:30 Albo and AI - AI in charge of NDIS - Albo decides to leave AI alone while more of these energy and water guzzling things are planned to be built here

00:30:09 Also Victorian parliament passes insane laws to try children as adults

00:37:32 Time to repeal defamation laws, as Linda Reynolds proceeds to utterly destroy a young woman who was raped in her office.

00:44:37 Australia Vs Humanity - NT vs human rights

00:47:41 Australia Vs Humanity - Nauru check-in

00:50:50 Don't cede bad arguments of the right!

00:52:25 Modern Omelas - the whole point of borders

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00:02:04 Greens and Labor reach a deal on "environment protection" bill

00:29:15 Far right polling well as other polls suggest Australians more concerned about immigration than climate change, and horrific survey results of NSW men and sexual violence.

00:38:47 Victoria police "upholding the right"

00:43:48 ALP cuts to public services ("efficiency dividend", where you remove capacity from the system)

00:50:44 Jeremy is apparently an old bastard now

00:52:14 Anti-trans nonsense at our ABC

Links -

Support for Greens passing environment bill - https://au.news.yahoo.com/albanese-government-passes-milestone-laws-to-protect-australias-future-045406212.html

Canberra hacks on Greens and ALP - go.bsky.app/redirect?u=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.ph%2FtpFlb

Australia vs migration - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/25/giridharan-sivaraman-australia-doesnt-need-another-migration-debate-tackle-inequality

NSW men survey - https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/24/minns-labor-pledges-action-man-box-survey-reveals-how-many-young-nsw-men-admit-sexually-harassing-women

Vic Pol's wild ambit claim over Melbourne for next 6 months - https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/25/melbourne-police-search-powers-warrantless-pat-downs-six-months

Meanwhile heavily on side of racist protesters and against counter protesters - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-28/vic-police-melbourne-protest-violence-arrests/106076166

Cuts to CSIRO and public service -https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/labor-to-slash-5-6-billion-from-public-service-20251125-p5ni6g - instead how about not paying for consultants and $96.5m websites https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-24/bom-website-approved-by-coalition-ceo-says/106047518 and not paying heads $800 - see dodgy NACC head https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-26/nacc-ceo-apologises-for-inaccurate-evidence/106056840

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00:01:05 11 November 1975

00:10:45 local discussion about "the greens" and the things they're apparently in charge of

00:16:28 Vic ALP vs kids

00:17:13 Vic ALP vs civil liberties

00:32:00 Victorian Treaty

00:40:51 Lefty Podcast celebration

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Sorry we recorded just before the excellent news of the Victorian Treaty - we'll cover that next time.

00:02:13 Nick's trip to Canberra and the Revenue Summit - teaser

00:05:25 Housing disaster getting worse thanks to Albo - but lets not forget Keating

00:07:17 ALP sneaking in another way to starve poor people

00:12:10 Privatisation doesn't work - Russo, NDIS

00:17:49 Climate tipping point and Murray Watt's "environment" bill

00:20:45 How the Greens can best tackle the shambles

00:31:46 A useful service?

00:32:52 Is Jeremy embarrassed about naysaying the idea of Albo meeting with Trump?

00:41:13 NOVEMBER 11 - LEFTY PODCAST CELEBRATION DAY

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Nick and Jeremy try to find hope, in grim times

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01:10 A meeting with Trump: "You're Hurting Australia Very Much Right Now"

09:50 Rallies in Australia - there's no "good reason" to be anti-immigration

13:58 Somebody point out to Bob Katter that punching people in the mouth is a violent crime

18:25 "Political violence is now unacceptable" say people who usually defend political violence

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00:01:43 March for Humanity over Sydney Harbour Bridge

00:05:59 A genuine shift on Gaza by the rightwing media, or a tactical (and temporary, and hollow) retreat

00:18:56 Jeremy Finally Knew How The World Could Be A Good And Happy Place

00:25:32 The UK anti-trans infection travels to Australia

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00:04:09 Maybe it's time for Australia to find new friends

00:16:09 New parliament - changing the rules - attack is the best form of defence when you're covering for genocide

00:27:10 Disgusting Greens shamelessly standing up for human rights again

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Australia vs humanity

US vs the good bits of Australia

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01:00 What are we supposed to use, harsh language?

01:49 Why wouldn't Australia celebrate the tearing up of the remainder of any pretense of a fig leaf of the idea of an international rules based order, the thing that most protected smaller countries like Australia?

19:46 Can we stop pretending the ABC is anything but a tory outfit? (see: Latouf litigation)

21:09 Queensland ramps up cruelty against homeless people

25:24 Racism all the way down

33:06 Queensland proposes to recriminalise public drunkenness

33:28 Renters afraid to raise repairs

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  • Awarding time!

  • Scummo's services to firefighting

  • Nothing good comes of Albo meeting with Trump

  • Tasmania - what can voters do to make the ALP bloody work with the parliament they elect

  • short crappy internet break

  • The enemy of the transphobe is our friend

  • is AUKUS - not good? What about... not doing it? FRESH ORIGINAL TAKES

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Jeremy checks in to see if everything's okay, and fortunately it is!

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  • Nats and Libs doing nonsense irrelevant stuff

  • Murray Watts and the ALP setting fire to the planet (audio from Greg Jericho of The Australia Institute)

  • Jeremy Makes Excuses

  • Nick Fires Up

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  • Lefty podcasts of Australia unite!

  • The worst people in the country paying Bandt the compliment of gloating

  • Will the Greens take advice from the people who hate them? Helpful advice like "give up on human rights, social justice, unions and the environment"

  • No, under new Greens leader Larissa Waters they're going to do more of the stuff their voters voted for!

  • What about Gaza? Didn't Australians show they're on Israel's side when they turfed Peter Dutton from his seat? I mean, didn't they show they're on Israel's side when they rejected the LNP? Damn making this argument is tough

  • What about the Greens standing up for unions? What if we said it's being mates with "the thugs in the CFMEU"? What if we said the second thing constantly and ignored the first bit?

  • We mention that the LNP just made Susssssan Ley their leader, allocating the appointment the time and thought that it deserves

  • Exclusive polling data released only to Well May We Say

  • You won't believe this SURPRISING TRICK that Labor could use to get rid of the Greens completely

  • Our Election Expert finally settles what the election result Really Means

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Nick and Jeremy wake up bleary-eyed to remember some of the great hits last night, including

  • "35% Is A Mandate, Right" - Albo's Big Balls Band

  • "We Are The Champions (with LNP preferences)" - Albo vs Max

  • "It's Not Easy Being Green (or a party with significant support that isn't geographically concentrated)" - Kermit The Frog

  • "Killing In The Name Of" - Rage Against The Greens

  • "Farewell Dirty Lefties, Enjoy Your Weekend" - Creepy Pete

  • "Don't Cry For Me, Nasty Kooyong" - Amelia

  • "Sucks to be a Sukkar" - Some Forgotten Guy

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00:00:47 The Howard Housing Crisis election (don't platform the Greens!)

00:13:53 Dutton's no good very bad election - Australians notice from the Trump example that "anti-woke" politicians actually make things much worse

00:27:22 A wild ballot appears and is dealt with

00:41:39 AUKUS: for the $400bn, we don't get subs, we get a future administration pissed off with us for being suckers to predecessors they hate

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Jeremy and Nick have a chat with the Greens candidate for the Melbourne seat of Kooyong, Jackie Carter. A candidate for Kooyong not related to a premier and not having to lie about being a renter (like her LNP opponent) or having access to A TRILLION DOLLARS (like her Teal opponent)? Maybe the Well May We Say bump will help (occupy an hour of your time).

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01:30 Dutton's Difficulties - It's not Easy being a Temu Trump in Australia in April 2025

03:52 Waking from the "anti-woke" scam

16:40 Covering for Coles and Woolies

25:24 The Real Canberra Bubble (apologies to any toddlers who may overhear)

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01:09 Let's just keep trusting the US to defend us

09:27 Labor's gut punch to environmental protections in Australia

20:10 I guess we should talk about the budget

24:18 Worst MP in Victoria wasting parliament's time to attack trans people

33:44 six magic letters for the useless national media - "tax cut"

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The US threatens to punch itself in the balls

Peter has some new ideas to make your life worse

Leftist podcasters unite

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01:15 Nick sells out

03:17 Lefty indoctrination spreading

04:45 ABC pretends housing crisis is just about immigration

07:20 Moreton Bay council listens to residents who want it to attack homeless people

15:59 Virtue signalling gone mad, Nick and Jeremy have a go about blaming foreigners for everything

18:08 Nick and Jeremy bang on about housing as if they want it to be affordable or something

27:47 Some woke commie BS about liveable wages and worker solidarity helping each other, frankly do these guys even want huge corporate profits at the expense of working people

34:20 Don't know if you heard about this Trump/Zelensky oval office thing but there was a thing, bit obscure, but Nick was there to tell Jeremy about it

46:08 Nick and Jeremy finally looking for some of the jokes Boomers like

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01:23 test time

08:07 appeasing bullies usually works

30:38 questions

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00:05:38 mandatory idiocy

00:16:11 sucking up to bullies

00:34:50 childish nicknames

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04:13 A "unifying" date

23:03 It Couldn't Happen Here

51:35 Where is the Protest? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering Protest

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02:31 It was 20 years ago today, John Winston Howard did some things we're just finding out about

13:00 The Follow-Up

20:53 Longer terms - Why Should We Be Subject To The Whims Of Peasants

28:25 Gentlemen! To Evil!

35:06 Nick's mate Peter Dutton

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00:01:48 Santa's end of year sack

00:04:09 SHUT UP PEASANTS - Jacinta Allan ALP government in Victoria seriously trying to destroy the right to protest

00:09:10 RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY - The Victorian LNP not sure if they stand with Nazis or not (in their own words); also Pessutto fails to defend himself against a virulent FART

00:22:34 AUSTRALIA VS HUMANITY - councils ramping up cruelty against homeless people in 2024 like they're Dickensian villains

00:26:10 HAND US A MATCH - US setting fire to the planet; instead of looking for hoses, the Australian government thinks that means it can set some fires itself

00:31:58 2024 ROUNDUP - incl remember when Dutton was mad at Woolworths, Penny Wong solves Gaza, Bruce Lehrmann goes back for his hat...

00:43:24 2024 HIGHLIGHTS - incl Rising Tide and worker solidarity vs Woolworths, Varoufakis address

00:53:21 POWER CORRUPTS (EXCEPT JEREMY)

00:59:14 2025 HOPES

Links

Deeming vs Pessutto federal court online file - https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/services/access-to-files-and-transcripts/online-files/deeming-v-pesutto

Justice Lee's judgment in the original Lehrmann defamation trial - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79QC1TYXEWA

Lehrmann federal court online file (including Justice Lee's judgment) - https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/services/access-to-files-and-transcripts/online-files/lehrmann

Lehrmann federal court appeal online file - https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/services/access-to-files-and-transcripts/online-files/lehrmann-appeal-online-file

Yanis Varoufakis NPC address - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AI8RG6nMGg

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00:03:00 How we talk about terrible people "when they cark it"

00:20:05 What if the "left" parties in in parliament rediscovered these people called "workers" and their mysterious needs

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00:03:05 Luigi's Mansion and America Is Not About Violence

00:07:56 Housing - Max and Sukkar at the NPC and Sukkar's terrible lines not being swatted down

00:26:35 Woolworths and filthy workers wanting safe working conditions like they're royalty or something

00:40:36 Wrong sort of guillotines in parliament

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00:01:45 Greens wave ALP's housing plan through

00:18:47 Rising Tide protest at Newcastle

00:23:27 Australia Vs Humanity - LNP promises not to arrest war criminals with warrants out from ICC

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00:01:56 #worldisfukt - Trump - Nazis - local attempts to seize on it

00:31:52 Rigging the Game

00:32:24 A foolproof plan to keep 15 year olds from social media

00:33:04 20% HECS discount bribe by idiots who don't know how to bribe voters effectively

00:50:46 Australia & NZ vs humanity - Haka vs anti-Treaty MPs in NZ; Sneaky senators vs Lidia Thorpe

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04:23 Permission to be awful

09:03 Monkey Brains

22:20 The Right Wing Monkey Brain Cycle

27:14 ALP's HECS offer - but not now, silly, only if you re-elect us

37:23 Fed Covid-19 inquiry

37:56 A left-wing cycle

46:59 The golden rule

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  • Labor politicians across the country celebrate the party suffering a large swing against it in Queensland and losing government to the LNP, because it might possibly have won a seat from the Greens on LNP preferences

  • Nick apologises

  • Nick Has A Plan For The Regions

  • Jeremy Bangs on About Boardgames

  • Jeremy's Still Banging on About Boardgames

  • Poor Nick

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In the beginning, Lidia was "rude" to the British monarch. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded, by the worst people in the country, as "a bad move".

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A quick one (well, once Nick found the SD card with the recording three days later) mainly about that time Albo bought a house on the coast and almost everyone missed the point.

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We’ve sort of recovered enough from Australia beclowning itself on reconciliation to try to get back on the podcast horse. Fortunately, there’s new and more uplifting stuff to talk about!

Australia beclowning itself on housing;

Australia beclowning itself on civil rights; and

Australia beclowning itself on what you’d think was a really easy one, whether it should oppose genocide or not

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Australia just beclowned itself.

Why? What can we do next?

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00:04:14 Hypocrisy

00:10:10 Voice

01:00:17 Meetings

01:15:04 Games

01:32:50 Lies

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Pretty hard to do timestamps this week, it was a pretty wide-ranging discussion. But some real ideas on what we can do did emerge during our chat.

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02:07 Painting Protest

11:34 Do diversity for us but don't actually say anything

19:35 Go home Cardinal Pell

22:38 Farewell Jacinda, we like you much more than the brief mention here would suggest

30:20 Perrotet: who knew in 2003 that dressing up like a Nazi is bad?

35:22 Molan: the tragedy when war criminals die

40:16 It's perfectly okay to say not-nice things about evil dead people

50:10 Tom's Book

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01:53 Victorian Election This Very Saturday

21:26 What Shall We Do About Poor Little Twitter

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02:39 Naughty Sportsminions thinking they're there to play sport

22:43 Media Watch Goes To The TERFs

32:04 Because Lidia Thorpe Dated An Ex-Bikie, Now The Greens May Not Criticise Actual Corruption

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00:03:47 Why stage 3 tax cuts going through is a real, serious long-term problem and will not only seriously harm people in the short term, it will seriously stuff up progressive politics in the medium and long term; also can we reverse the bloody ratchet?

00:19:15 ALP's paid parental leave... eventually? And still without super, ability to promote the change it's supposed to promote

00:35:31 Thorburn: another fake "religious persecution" beat up

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01:11 Covid receives a strongly-worded letter from the National Cabinet; will the virus go away now the premiers say it’s over? (No.)

15:18 Labor tries to make its new ICAC model appealing to Peter Dutton, whose approval would definitely mean they’re on the right track;

23:04 The Libs refuse to be dismayed by Coolio’s passing, because they’ve found their own new rapping talent;

30:42 Jeremy and Denise try to figure out why the left is so much worse at finding common cause with allies than the right (thanks Tom, Emerald and Wil for the conversation trigger).

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It was the last day of Scummo after all! But is the new Ablo government all we hoped? (No, and we had pretty low hopes.) Also, Well May We Say “God Save the Queen”, because nothing will save the unsympathetic and, frankly, pretty annoyed lefties on this podcast.

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01:36 Frydenberg - "Everything's affordable if it's a priority"

02:17 Frydenberg jokes about everyone in his electorate hating him

02:45 Clive's ONE HOUR ads on seven, nine and ten

04:10 The "no voting for you" window

07:55 when you have a decent local candidate but also like the Greens

13:45 Something to consider with your bouncing Senate vote

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01:42 They Wanna Live Like Common People

12:26 Waleed vs wage rises

21:57 Gotcha got

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01:09 Hung Parliament

04:38 Gaslight Election

07:49 Not some kind of disgusting, ugh, lefties

13:20 a balanced "debate"

15:25 google it mate

20:20 bullies pretending to be victims

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ALP stands up to scientists!

ALP stands up to the Greens!

Bluey declares war on Squibs!

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00:01:26 Reckless Easing, the 56% Opening story

00:23:28 rules for thee not for me - Scummo's ode to being a dad

00:32:55 Ablo just giving up - revenue, housing affordability

00:47:50 Why Bandt's "tax the billionaires" pitch isn't the election winner he thinks it is

00:51:40 remember the reverse ratchet

00:55:46 Spending always about cost not benefit

01:01:10 Afghanistan non-rescue: waste of a PM

01:08:10 Tudge-ucation

01:09:10 Lyle's bad day

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00:02:10 Housing Affordability Is Screwing You, Too

00:39:30 Lockdowns, Anti-Vicsers

01:01:15 What Is The Point Of All This Anyway

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00:01:42 Brother Scott's Divine Mission

00:54:26 Labor Being Depressing Corner

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00:01:20 A difficult subject to discuss - the people who are qualified to talk on it are traumatised

00:04:40 That's not what "the presumption of innocence" means

00:08:30 Who's responsible for fixing Australia's terrible defamation laws? A man who's using them to punish journalists

00:16:50 March 4 Justice much scarier than a gun protest

00:28:35 Scummo getting away with starving the poor bc everyone's letting him sell the cut as "an increase"

00:36:36 NSW police commissioner's "consent app" brain fart

00:40:01 When Scummo says "jobs" he means "a policy that will make yours harder and less secure"

00:43:22 Imagine you wanted to join the ALP

00:45:11 Australia vs Humanity - more Dutton dehumanising whoever he can

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02:26 Another brutal cut to social security

19:20 Scummo's wife reminds him that covering up rape could be wrong

27:36 The Dumbest Way To Try To Shake Down Facebook

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Why can't the ALP win the musical chairs economics argument? The country is kind of depending on them figuring it out.

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00:01:08 Australian rightwingers and Prime Minister vs a new US Administration

00:11:30 Scummo to starve the poor even harder

00:17:08 Annual Jan 26 Argy Bargy With No Progress

00:27:03 Australia vs Humanity

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New year, new opportunities (to do terrible things)

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00:01:00 #ScottyDidntHelp

00:07:40 $50/day

00:20:25 propaganda by boardgame

00:29:18 where are the journos calling out the $50/day madness

00:33:40 shut up I'm the PM and they asked me about lady experiences

00:39:00 Porter and Tudge shitty misogynists as well as terrible in all the other ways

00:49:30 ugh exclusives

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We don't talk about the US election. We don't talk about the US election. We don't talk about the US election.

Ok we do a bit. But it's mainly about how cooked centrism is and how infuriating it is when the Libs pretend to do a policy we all want (eg ICAC) but it isn't really. Also there was an election in Queensland.

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Brandon joins us to discuss the upcoming Queensland election and also how cruel people are being about a more southerly premier dating a bloke after she sacked him for corruption AS IF WE HAVEN'T ALL DONE THAT. Also we have more advice for Daniel Andrews? How much more presumptuous can a lefty political podcast get?

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00:01:18 LNP's 2020 budget; flattening tax rates so rich pay less on deranged lie that will create "jobs"; job subsidy programs that just encourage businesses to sack one worker so they can hire a subsidised one; removing credit regulations to further inflate housing costs

00:26:36 Love Between The Paw Paw Trees - Trying to force poor young people to take underpaid jobs in remote areas; stenos' hard work in the propaganda mines to sell it

00:34:30 Political Agony Aunt - Nick Carr

00:39:14 Time To Fix The NBN!

00:42:49 Stuck In My Craw - Eliza Berlage

00:54:32 Scummo vs suburban coffee shops

00:58:02 Supine media and the "bubble". (BUBBLE WARNING)

01:01:26 "Centre Alliance" gives the Libs their Uni Destruction Bill (bad luck kids who want freedom to choose a course but don't have super rich parents)

01:08:36 Lambie flips a coin and decides to vote against a new cruelty to refugees

01:19:05 Victoria; Mikakos resigns; Baxendale silliness; why can't ALP actually argue what it's learned from its mistakes

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Quarantine

Vicpol thuggery

Let The Victorians Starve

Border compassion

Stuck In My Craw - Nick Carr

What would solve our troubles, gas industry advisor?

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Unprecedented Recession

Tony Abbott - let the old people die

Jeff Kennett - Victorian premiers should not be authoritarian

Victoria police - Incite This!

Qld police - Trust Us (to cover for the bad cops)

Australia Vs Humanity - Tudge's fudge re mobile phones in immigration detention

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In which the brave soul keeping tabs on the conspiracy nutters, Cam Smith, joins us to discuss their recent unleashing, as Victoria locks down further. And Stilgherrian returns to tell us what's stuck in his craw.

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  • Something D-O-O Economics

  • Despair

  • Do It For Josh

  • But My Great Grandfather Loved Having A Racial Slur As His Surname

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Cover your device in a plastic sheet, it's a pair of Victorians talking about what's happening in plague state!

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00:01:20 Lurgi Strikes Victoria because of everyone News Corp hates 00:15:15 Silly News Corp beatup #1 (Lydia Thorpe) 00:18:23 Silly News Corp beatup #2 (Chess!) 00:22:40 Silly News Corp beatup #3 (Lollies!) 00:32:56 Actual journalism on the ABC! - Arts package 00:45:23 Actual journalism on the ABC! - ABC funding 00:59:11 Revenge On The Universities

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00:03:58 BLM: LNP, media and police try everything to avoid change

00:46:31 Australia vs Humanity

00:48:08 Cam Smith tells us what's Stuck In His Craw 00:49:20 Queen's Birthday Horrors

00:57:22 Budget built on stealing $1.5bn from the poor

01:05:52 Money for reno rorts but cuts for the poor and women

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In which technical issues (oh god not the wrong mic), children (awake & singing) and birds (also awake & singing) thwart morning recording efforts on Friday and Saturday despite there being a lot to talk about.

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00:02:43 Well May We Say God Queen Stop Hiding Your Historical Correspondence About The Dismissal 00:08:37 Friday Drop 2: Fine You Got Us, Lib Govt To Pay Back $721m To Robodebt Victims It Stole It From 00:13:53 Friday Drop 1: Lib Govt Scams "JobKeepers" With $60bn Error 00:29:38 The COAG Is Dead, Long Live COAG Under A Different Name 00:31:43 JobBullshitter 00:31:11 Happy Reconciliation Week We Blew Up This Precious Cultural Site For You

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00:01:38 Hello Second Wave - No sick leave for casuals = mcdonald's outbreak - "Arrest Bill Gates!" - LNP Tim Smith continues his weird obsessing about "Dictator Dan" - Vic Libs plan for reopening no mention of health 00:20:04 Stuck In My Craw - Stilgherrian 00:25:04 Shit policy propped up with shameless propaganda - China stoush (prop from smh wE shOuLd stAnD uP for PriNciPlE and abc ThEy LoVe oUr StuFf) - Scummo jobseeker being liveable (let's pretend it's weekly not fortnightly) disincentive to work - "First Lady" Jenny Morrison 00:40:30 Media farewells - Buzz Feed Oz shuts - Media Watch and Alan Jones

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00:01:10 Covid-19 Freedom, Janet doing some maths on old people, and illuminating us on the app

00:46:29 ALP and ACTU vs retail and migrant workers

00:58:56 Eden Monaro

01:03:01 Smashing TVs to teach the state a lesson (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOVy3weAtqw as put together by Cam Smith)

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00:03:13 Scummo's latest ideas - let everyone out early; $3bn to bribe private schools to open early - vs how are we actually tracking? 00:23:12 Credit For Scummo 00:31:29 Locking down renters 00:37:00 Stuck In My Craw (Brandon Selic) 00:49:24 Victorian doctor makes HISTORICAL ANALOGY and must be BURNED

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01:20 Pandemic Inspections 05:50 Why won't you trust this trustworthy government of trustworthy people with a tracking app 09:27 $94m Emergency oil reserve kept safely where we can't get it in an emergency 13:08 Trumble reassures us that he knew the people he was giving huge power over our lives were incompetent lunatics 21:41 JobKeeper and JobSeeker debacles 30:35 Opening the things

Lockdown effect link referred to by Brandon - https://phys.org/news/2020-04-economic-worse-lockdown-social-distancing.html

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00:03:41 Logan's Run 00:05:50 Know Your Foe: The IPA Isn't Afraid 00:14:55 JobKeeper for Some 00:35:47 What Is The High Court Doing? (Trigger warning: discussion of catholic priests) 00:50:08 Looking For Some Positives

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The many helpful apocalypse skills of Scummo

When the other shoe drops

Erin Riley tells us what's Stuck in Her Craw

Kevern and Trumble rumble

Easter borders

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Recorded Sunday 22/3/2020 What is happening? What does it mean? What can we do about it? What does Stilgherrian have Stuck In His Craw?

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Where we were Friday afternoon (with a Sunday evening update) comfortable in the knowledge that the greatest minds in the country were doing the best they could to keep us safe from the pandemic.

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DREADED LURGI 01:30 Hoarding/Heroic TP workers 08:30 Casual racism at SMH NO MORE BULLSHIT CORNER 09:09 North Sydney "regional" pool 12:20 Porter to HoR - the PM "can't be responsible" for emails sent from his department 15:45 Shorten to PM on "no duty" to people on centrelink 27:06 Ardern v Scummo 30:45 Frydenberg weird racism against Hindus 36:11 LNP hates LGBTI people / would like to be welcomed to Mardi Gras SHAMELESS MORONS CORNER 39:57 Bronwyn's theories about CORVID-19 40:40 Dutton islamist terrorism "left-wing" 42:58 Fever Ranty and Malcolm Roberts: right wing extremists (including actual historical Nazis) really left-wing NOT THAT IT MATTERS but they were left-wing 47:08 LNP Senator Rennick vs the Bureau of Meteorology and also CSIRO

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Holden gone - Govt's response to robodebt cases that it doesn't have to exercise "due or reasonable care" - Sooty lying about what he said that angered Paul from Nelligen - ALP complaining about a resources tax - sports rorts projects not even eligible - some absurd rants from Katter and Fieravanti-Wells - and much more!

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01:15 Cam (Stuck In My Craw) 04:19 Bandt (nightmarish platform of hideously appealing policies) 09:52 McCormack (believes in what exactly) 15:26 Littleproud (I'm not gifted academically) 25:15 Dutton (250 imaginary arsonists) 30:44 Scummo (bully projection)

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  • Survival Day 2020 - bushfires smother debate - Ablo's useless ALP backs Jan 26 - Religious privilege bill responses due next Friday - "Bullying" fundamentalists who bully children not ok, but bullying people who once did a post on Facebook criticising our bullying of refugees before deleting it is totally okay - Tanya Pledgersek - No consequences for sports rorts - Fossil fuel lobby escapes any consequences, except that lost production from the bushfires themselves

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Greg and Jeremy discuss the Libs' pivot from NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT to NOTHING WE CAN DO, conveniently both positions that enable their fossil fuel lobby mates to keep stuffing the atmosphere full of greenhouse gases until we all die. And Jeremy suggests how Labor could combine Australians' desire not to spend the rest of their lives in gas masks with the nationalism on which politicians trade - in short, for Australia to become a nation that fights hard on the world stage for other nations to cut global emissions enough that this is as bad as it gets.

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Sooty comes back from his secret Hawaian holiday to find a very ungrateful country that is not at all thankful for the exciting adventure he's been giving them and, worse, wants him to change. But he will not change! He's Sooty!

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01:24 The Best Leadership You Could Hope For When Your Country Is Burning

15:45 Making Excuses For The Best Leadership You Could Hope For When Your Country Is Burning

18:29 Effing Wombats

22:55 Get My Government Out Of Your Lives

27:24 Getting Angry About Toddlers Needing To Use A Servo Toilet

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00:00:00 Apology 00:01:03 Acknowledgment 00:02:03 Advertising 00:04:10 Advances 00:11:55 Americans 00:12:05 Adversaries 00:15:10 Amazon 00:15:28 Audible 00:15:40 Advertising 00:16:15 Australians 00:16:38 Authoritarians 00:16:59 Arbitrary rules 00:17:37 Arseholes Alright it's a broad discussion over two hours mainly trying to figure out WTF we can do to change the direction the country is going.

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Unbreathable Sydney. A religious fundamentalism bill even worse than the last one.

Will "the Opposition" manage to capitalise on the government's unforced errors?

You'll never guess the answer.

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Link for submissions to Victorian Government review (due Wednesday 18 December 2019) - https://www.tenantsvic.org.au/regulations/

00:01:25 Improving the lot of tenants in Victoria (wide-ranging discussion about the balance and steps forward) (Ben's audio quality improves after the first ten minutes)

00:51:11 Labor digs up the Rudd/Turnbull ETS from 2009 to have a dig at the Greens

00:56:49 Lambie betrays refugees on extremely silly grounds

00:58:25 Rugby Australia betrays LGBTI Australians by rolling over to Folau on extremely silly grounds

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02:30 Folau blaming bushfires on marriage equality - opportunity to separate him from supporters and harm the Religious Discrimination Bill (which Porter is threatening to make even worse)

05:18 Scummo bushfires - cricket; nothing we can do on climate change but we're doing lots

15:34 Emerson "international green socialism" is "white supremacy" article, along with supportive tweets by Crabb, Sales, Riley etc

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Episode 109 - "Upsetting the Children" (feat Daile Kelleher)

11k climate scientists warning of "untold suffering"

Response

  • Scummo saying protesters are indulgent (AUDIO)

  • Dutton wanting protesters to pay for police, to lose social security (AUDIO)

  • Marles agrees, says they're not protesting for a cause (AUDIO)

  • Scummo promises Queensland Resources Council he's going to stop secondary boycotts (AUDIO)

Stories we had to skim:

  • The Libs admitting in court they were trying to look like the aec

  • NSW police minister saying strip searching kids is fine and he wouldnt mind it happening to his kids

  • Georgina Downer gives up on SA

  • Margaret Court demands to be treated like Rod Laver. Her remarks back in the 70s/80s "She is a great player but I'd like somebody at the top to whom the younger players can look up" and "It is very sad for children to be exposed to it". (She meant Navratilova and "homosexuality")

  • Leunig's infuriatingly absurd non-apology (endorsed by the Oz's political editor appalled he had to write an apology, which of course it wasn't)

ALP Self-Review

  • Tom Ballard has the ALP's avoidance of division Stuck In His Craw

  • Lessons not learned

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00:02:04 Clare O'Neill becomes the Oz's favourite Labor frontbencher

00:26:12 Scummo's $190k empathy consultant

00:31:07 Uluru climb closes cf trying to climb parliament house

00:36:53 The fight against the Religious Discrimination Bill

00:52:57 VicPol violence at anti-mining protest

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00:00:56 Ita vs "political correctness"

00:10:25 Medevac - Lambie suggesting we need to be crueller to refugees fleeing war in Syria

00:18:10 NewStart 2nd lowest payment (or lowest) in OECD; Andrew Laming dismissing business calls to raise NewStart; Townsville mayor vs homeless; disturbing poll on Indue/drug testing

00:38:33 Extinction Rebellion protests; absurd bail conditions; Dutton wants vigilantes to go after protesters; Kerry-anne Kennerley wants them run over or starved

00:49:30 Qld Labor vs protesters; Labor voting to take $3.9bn from education investment fund to go to "disaster relief"; Richard Marles really just wants to join the Libs

01:06:40 Martyn Iles gish gallop at NPC; Mark Kenny retort

01:28:20 Stuck In My Craw - Tim Whitehead

01:34:55 What's Scummo been up to? Viciously harmful remarks attacking trans kids; revealing jokes to Tas Libs; weird associations with QAnon cranks

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Newest hideous idea from the private health industry; Ruston and Dutton demonising and threatening the poor; Climate rally; Scummo and Trump; old Libs and the UK; NSW decriminalises abortion; ACT decriminalises (small amounts of) cannabis.

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00:01:30 Labor vs Robodebt

00:03:40 Scummo vs family law - unleashing Andrews and Hanson on it

00:08:40 Fundamentalist liars vs decriminalising abortion in NSW

00:31:45 Fundamentalist liars want clearer powers over the rest of us

01:13:10 Where to for decent religious people

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00:01:50 Unprecedented bushfires that are totally normal if you don't know what unprecedented means

00:16:54 The war on LGBTI people update (or as the government calls it, "religious freedom")

00:25:43 Biloela family doomed - Scummo and Dutton think their cruelty is brave toughness

00:47:09 Scummo's distractions from the terrible economic figures - Indue expansion and drug testing and why those are terrible ideas

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00:01:45 Biloela cruelty

00:39:40 Weird Pell-ignments

00:47:50 Terrifying religious power bill

01:19:45 McCormack and Wong vs Pacific

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00:01:05 Pacific Island Forum; Australia waters down comminque; Ardern calls us out; Alan Jones attacks; Scummo lame response; Jones's lame defence,

00:15:47 Safe point after Alan Jones audio; Alexander Downer vs "virtue signalling".

00:19:50 Religions vs the rest of us; Guardian using the fundamentalists' framing; the "christian" lobby thinks it's found a way to gain the privilege for religious employers AND religious employees at the expense of the rest of us; Victoria progress on birth record bill; NSW progress on abortion.

00:46:20 Real freedoms being really infringed and really needing actual protections - Banerji; Witness K and Collaery

00:56:01 Pushback on NS increase campaign; Ch 9 "welfare cheats" with "scam" to access own money in spite of Indue card; Ch 9 "digital forensic lab"; news.com.au's "$17,000 a week tradie jobs" being TURNED DOWN

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00:02:10 The govt, Channel 7 and the Oz really want you to hate the people on NewStart who would like to not be starved

00:53:54 Mayby 2019 is the year to finally decriminalise abortion in NSW

00:58:35 Crown and ICAC

01:03:41 Ginger's Stuck In My Craw

01:07:58 Unladylike

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00:03:12 McCormack wants people starving on NewStart to "move to the regions". Also let's just talk about social security for a moment.

00:26:27 NIB boss Mark Fitzgibbon wants the govt to abolish medicare and force everyone to take up private health insurance

00:45:40 Labor votes to give Peter Dutton the power to deny any one of us entry to Australia without a court process and without right of appeal.

00:53:00 Albo and the ALP - bitch and fold; "easy answers"

01:05:27 Australia Vs Humanity - Imprisoning an infant, at 2 years old her teeth have rotted and have been been removed.

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00:02:00 Ablo don't call liars liars

00:04:30 Marles and Labor pushing for a more generous pension regime if you own property

00:07:06 NewStart - Labor saying it's up to govt.

00:14:49 Luke Howarth's "positive spin" on homelessness

00:15:30 RDN not attacking Labor, just being an actual opposition

00:20:40 Pyne & Bishop cleared by govt as not being in breach of standards

00:22:53 Marles: coal industry should be 'celebrated'

00:23:50 Matt Canavan thinks coal improves air quality

00:25:10 Abbott: dark satanic mills

00:27:30 Paul Murray blaming Labor for cost of LNP's deal with Lambie

00:30:38 Adani getting data on public servants - Deputy PM thinks it's fine

00:33:20 NBN - both for netflix, but also killed by netflix

00:36:00 Daisy against corporate involvement in politics

00:38:26 PNG deporting Nick McKim for looking into Lorengau

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00:01:39 Labor the second-rate tax-cut party; how they've f*cked up the policy AND the politics; what can they do now. Also "the Real Opposition".

00:25:42 Seasonal work, piece rates, exploitation and homelessness for people on NewStart

00:36:00 The Christian Privilege Stuff - and what happens if we don't start fighting until it's too late

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Labor today voting with the LNP to cut $158bn from revenue in tax cuts for upper middle to upper class Australians. Next will come the brutal cuts to the poor to pay for it. Only Adam Bandt and Andrew Wilkie voted against this obscenity.

If the shot seems familiar, it is similar to the photo in the WMWS logo from 2010 when only Adam Bandt and Andrew Wilkie voted against offshore detention brutality for refugees.

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00:02:29 Ratchet time - it's the squandering billions on tax cuts phase and both big parties are here to vote for them!

00:06:58 Interlude: Labor gives up on NewStart

00:10:58 Splitting off the even more absurd tax cuts

00:14:58 "Politics Of Envy"

00:26:57 Israel Bloody Folau and the pitch for a new Religious Privilege

00:46:00 Post hoc ergo propter hoc, Lyle Shelton, and the end of the "Australian Conservatives"

00:48:00 Pyne's new job

00:50:49 Trump praising our cruelty to refugees; Scammo Telling China And The US What For

00:54:00 War In Iran?!?!

01:00:54 Australia Vs Humanity - refugee in Manus to be charged with attempting suicide

01:05:27 Tom's Happy Thought

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00:01:25 Tax cut brinkmanship

00:10:15 Alan Jones boasts about how the Libs always lie to tax cut voters, and how futile it is for the ALP to placate these people

00:21:56 Setka, and how to protect female workers by taking away their rights

00:27:56 Dutton trying to bring "medevac" back

00:31:18 Tax rises and death taxes - the Libs' attack on people with student "debts"

00:38:54 IPA watch: whistleblowers -> press freedom -> freedom of propagandists to spout bullshit.

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Brandon and Denise join Jeremy to reminisce, while Jeremy feels a new hope for the future. Or is it the past?

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00:01:07 Albo's ascension (remember him? See episode 59)

00:06:15 Better approaches to what happened in the campaign; $387bn out of your pocket; the 95% Giant Mortgage policy and The Party of Debt

00:21:08 Bowen tries to apologise to ACL types; ACL reveals that it's not interested in "christian policy"

00:30:50 Nick Carr tells us what's stuck in his craw

00:34:50 How to get people to vote against the policies they actually like (tl;dr - drive them to the edge, and then frighten them)

00:40:38 "News.com.au is very left wing"

00:44:30 ALP approaches going forward (tl;dr - frame immediately the cost of living pressures coming from Scummo, starting with power prices jumping immediately the Libs were returned)

00:57:19 Bipartisan legislation to stop people impersonating the AEC - also reminding people that the Libs didn't just lie, they cheated

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WMWS considers an alternative show focus and then remembers the people who don’t have the luxury of tuning out. To hell with hot takes on This Is Definitely What Went Wrong - we have some ideas as to how progressives (and not a stung ALP lurching to the right) can build to a victory over Scummo in 2022.

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In the week in which an egg was rolled gently off the temporary Prime Minister's head in Albury (this text and the episode title being the only reference to it since we didn't actually mention it in the episode), a bumper episode featuring

00:01:05 Voting ideas!

00:06:51 far right's new low (seriously)

00:08:26 Letterbox horror

00:16:48 Threatening renters 1 - Dutton's creepy letterbox harrassment

00:20:48 Reader refugee rent offer!

00:25:18 The centrepice of the Libs' campaign "launch" - their new plan to make housing even less affordable (immediately endorsed by Labor!)

00:32:34 Frydenberg admits they haven't modelled their signature housing policy

00:42:16 Frydenberg admits his fake "surplus" for next year won't exist if he gets to do his EWL promise

00:46:40 Threatening renters 2 - real estate agents threatening tenants with lies about the election

00:52:01 What is this "$387bn higher taxes" line and why is it bullshit

00:57:32 Man dies waiting for DSP

01:05:22 Scummo "respects" women

01:11:17 Scummo's plan for new religious powers before the end of the year

01:25:47 Space Invader vs Pacman

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01:27 Losing candidates

04:59 Social media pasts

08:46 Climate costing

10:32 REDISTRIBUTION!

13:11 Pity the ALP won't defend it

16:39 If the ALP won't, then point out the redistribution upwards happening under the LNP

18:00 730 overly sympathetic to Frankenboomers - or were they?

24:55 childcare, or as Dan Tehan calls it, communism

27:21 Bill Shorten being an absolute d*ckhead and endorsing turnbacks

29:00 Working through the hideous Victorian senate ballot paper

34:23 Clive "you can make a lot of money if you don't pay your workers" Palmer

35:10 Pauline "why are all the racist grifters I nominate bad men" Hanson

39:36 Scummo embarrassing himself

40:55 Mark Latham being worse

42:15 But Sky is getting worried.

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Below is the nightmare Victorian Senate ballot paper, in the order determined by random chance. As you can see, progressive candidates did very badly, and the ballot is filled with right-wing cranks and lunatics. The Libs are at the very top. The ALP is way down the bottom - worse, it’s after the far-right “Labour DLP”, which will cause confusion. The ballot highlights how silly it is having a system where people with a few hundred bucks who register a party with a misleading name in April have the same chance of being at the top of the paper as a real party people have heard of.

I’d suggest the solution is that the ballot is in order of who got the most votes last time. No more “Liberal Democrats” getting ahead of the Liberal Party, or the “Labour DLP” being ahead of the ALP. No more trading on confusion.

Anyway, that won’t happen, so here we are. What to do?

And here is a link to a ranking engine used by boardgame geeks to rank their boardgame collections: https://www.pubmeeple.com/board-game-ranking-engine/

It can be used for ranking any list. Like, say, a list of candidates for the Senate in Victoria.

And here is a text list of all the candidates on the Victorian Senate ballot for 2019. If you copy and paste it into the ranking engine, it will pull up two parties at a time and ask you to pick the one you’d prefer if it came down to the two of them at the end. One of them was going to get that last senate seat. It’s down to you. Which is the least bad option? Which would you prefer to see lose? I would suggest ranking candidates and parties that are unclear about what they stand for just above the ones that are outright bad (the LNP) and those ones above the ones that are outright evil (PHON), and the single issue parties where you don’t know how they’d vote on anything other than that issue just above those. Then the ok parties (the ALP) above them and the good parties (the Greens) at the top.

At the end it will generate a list in order of your preferences as you’ve expressed them. Hopefully that’s helpful.

The list:

A LNP

B Republican Party of Australia

C Socialist Equality Party

D The Small Business Party

E Christian Democratic Party (Fred Nile Group)

F United Australia Party

G Shooters, Fishers and Farmers

H Climate Action! Immigration Action! Accountable Politicians! (formerly Senator Online)

I Derryn Hinch's Justice Party

J Help End Marijuana Prohibition (HEMP) Party

K Citizens Electoral Council

L Australian Democrats

M Independents for Climate Action Now

N Liberal Democrats

O Secular Party of Australia

P Labour DLP

Q Pauline Hanson's One Nation

R Pirate Party

S Voteflux.org Upgrade Democracy

T Australian Workers Party

U Animal Justice Party

V The Greens (VIC)

W Rise Up Australia Party

X Australian Labor Party

Y Sustainable Australia

Z Sunny Chandra & Robert Whitehill

AA Fraser Anning's Conservative National Party

AB Australian Conservatives

AC The Great Australian Party

AD Health Australia Party

AE Yellow Vest Australia

Ungrouped Independents

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Kieran joins Denise and Jeremy to discuss journalists vs naughty twitterers (Karvelas, Uhlmann) and a plethora of sudden surprise giant mines in addition to Adani. Amongst other things.

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00:02:15 WinX captures the shameless bullshit of Scummo's redefinition of "a fair go"

00:05:07 Scummo's why work if you pay tax

00:07:50 Scummo's warning against adequate wages

00:26:12 dOnAtInG to Notre Dame

00:31:33 Frydenberg still screaming about his fictional "retiree tax"

00:41:17 Scummo's mob telling dumb lies about electric vehicles and "taking tradies utes"

00:46:16 Vanstone's generational war THINK OF HOW EASY YOUR GRANDPARENTS HAD IT WITH THEIR AFFORDABLE HOUSES AND JOB SECURITY and how much she hated having to provide social security to poor people when social security minister

00:54:18 Won't anyone think of the conservators? Chris Kenny beclowns himself again

00:58:59 Scummo presents parliament with his impression of some recent character work from a Mr Baron Cohen, a not at all racist caricature of what was until very recently the only nation that could launch a person into space, Kazakhstan

01:00:40 Scummo bu shi hen hao at all

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As the 2019 election campaign becomes official, Lyndsey (from EFA and the #notmydebt campaign) and Ella (prominent campaigner against the cruelty that is ParentsNext) and Jeremy have a wide-ranging discussion about where things sit with RoboDebt, ParentsNext, the NDIS and the social security safety net in general, and what we can hope for depending on the makeup of the next parliament. Some cats also participate.

(This was our first three-person episode, so there are some technical issues we've got ideas for addressing in the next one.)

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One Nation beclowns itself to the extent that even Scummo's Libs have to distance themselves. But if they have to draw the line on the small party on their side of politics for its vicious insanity, goddamnit, they'll do everything they can to force Labor to set loose the Greens for, well, being progressives. Or, according to Sky, anti-semitic urine-drinking extremist traitor vandals.

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00:02:43 Christchurch, and Tom's discussion with Samah Sabawi this week

00:04:10 Blot, Dutton, Scummo totally not whipping up hatred against muslims

00:17:43 LNP response to Christchurch

00:18:42 Scummo's embarrassing day at the mic

00:24:49 What Dumb Shit Has LNP Senator Linda Reynold Said Now

00:40:23 What is stuck in Tim's Craw

Somewhere in there we did discuss the NSW state election tomorrow, sort of, but look is anyone listening to this podcast in any danger of voting for the NSW ALP, let alone the Libs? You know the Libs have flogged off $70bn of public assets, and are busy wrecking the hospital system. Clearly they need to go. Maybe throw your vote to a party that cares about public services, then preference the ALP, and put the hideous Libs and even crazier far-right parties last. Good luck negotiating that ridiculous giant ballot paper! We'll be thinking of you.

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00:01:05 Leaving the church

00:09:27 Pell Defenders

00:17:27 Scummo and Big Mac

00:23:00 Big Mac v Beetrooter

00:25:43 Vested Interests

00:29:17 Climate strikes

00:34:48 Australia Vs Humanity: Actual segregation in 2019

00:40:55 Australia Vs Humanity: Ben Fordham vs Jeremy

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00:01:58 Scummo's international women's day message

00:07:01 Andrew Broad's message on women in parliament

00:09:00 Scummo's irresponsible use of the word "bubble" and the harm it does when children are present

00:12:00 Scummo and Angus Taylor try to fudge latest emissions figures

00:20:20 Nats leader Michael McCormack warns us of what action on climate change will do to night footy

00:28:14 Matthias Cormann accidentally points out that low wages are a "feature" of the LNP's economic policy

00:31:36 LNP senator Linda Reynolds's spectacular instant backtrack after finding out she's contradicting Cormann not Shorten

00:35:00 Tony Abbott uses twitter to boost his opponent

00:36:16 Mark Latham reveals that he finds accurate but critical words oppressive

00:38:20 Nats leader Michael McCormack reveals he always puts miners ahead of farmers

00:44:02 Scummo still spouting lies about beds and houses being taken by refugees

00:48:10 Julian Burnside for Kooyong - some revcealing commentary by Ben Fordham and Peter Dutton

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00:01:09 The uncomprehending rage of the political right as their lines fail to land

00:01:47 Pell's hell as he's off to a cell

00:07:31 The Australian right's best attempts to convince you Pell's swell

00:48:15 How badly does JWH's reference for Pell smell

00:50:48 Hadley rings the bell

00:53:54 Pell's referee campaigning for Gladys

00:55:39 Boat poll shock

00:56:46 "last" kids off Nauru

01:01:16 Scummo's department for "apparently" stopping the boats

01:03:04 Dutton's absurd line about refugees taking hospital beds and homes (audio from Dutton, Keneally, Herald Sun political editor and Scummo)

01:28:23 Stuck in my craw - Jeremy Poxon from the Australian Unemployed Workers' Union on this week's revelations about the government's cruel "ParentsNext" monstrosity

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00:01:18 Georgina's cheque

00:06:14 *Georgina's retiree (audio)

00:11:34 *Tim Wilson Loses His Shit (audio)

00:14:23 *Tim Wilson and the grubby smear (audio)

00:16:37 *Michaelia Cash caught out; demands an apology (audio)

00:22:22 Stacking AAT on the way out

00:25:59 Cormann's totally above board free holiday

00:27:45 Constrasting the rorts with robodebt deaths, and revelations robodebt costing almost as much - or more - than it raises

00:35:29 Muffin Break reminds us to #changetherules

00:42:20 *Socialism Corner - young people are apparently increasingly keen on "socialism", causing Fox News in the US to excoriate teaching kids about "fairness", and Sky News here to rant vaguely about Venezuela (Audio)

00:49:40 AvH: Lib Senator Linda Reynolds' revolting crocodile tears

00:54:56 Christian Porter's bullshit "glaring" "loophole" nonsense

00:57:24 The Libs' "limited tenders" - Paladin ($423m) and PIH ($21.5m), the shonky arrangements, and the impact on refugees

00:58:35 The Libs' shonky scheme to send sick refugees to Xmas Island out of spite

01:03:01 Hakeem al-Araibi red notice was bc Border Force forgot to send an email.

01:03:53 *One Nation rabble (audio)

01:06:34 *Vic LDP accidental upper house member's "Rexit"

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Jeremy Poxon from the Australian Unemployed Workers' Union (http://unemployedworkersunion.com) joins the regular Jeremy to discuss

00:01:21 The insane national paranoia about sick refugees

00:02:18 *Matthias Cormann's deranged paranoia (audio)

00:04:11 *Michael McCormack doesn't understand the bill he's ranting about (audio)

00:05:43 Scummo tells "people smugglers" that Australia's borders are "weak" so please don't come wink* (audio)

00:08:46 *Scummo explains that heads the bad thing is Labor's fault, tails the opposite thing is thanks to us (audio)

00:09:53 *Politicians mis-hearing the question (audio)

00:11:39 *Reading of Border Force admitting boats never stopped arriving

00:15:07 *Scummo making clear that it's not drownings that bother him, it's refugees arriving here safely (audio)

00:17:28 *Cam Smith tells us what's stuck in his craw (watering down minor refugee protections)

00:22:26 The insane national war on the poor

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00:02:15 LNP exit update

00:07:06 *Scullion's deadly retirement (audio)

00:08:20 Franking credit cash giveaway grabs the nation; have the Libs outsmarted themselves?

00:28:33 Taxes Are Always Bad - Scammo's economic Common Sense

00:29:03 *Scammo's "Economics 101" (audio)

00:36:15 Banking RC report handed down; misbehaviour to be punished so sternly bank shares skyrocket

00:43:08 AvH ASIO stopping women fleeing Saudi Arabia

00:43:21 AvH Australia sets up Hakeem

00:44:45 AvH "kids off Nauru"; medical transfer legislation

00:48:17 *Scummo's "indigenous voice" requirements (audio)

00:54:01 *KAK's racist whatabouttery (audio)

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01:52 Shorten's plans to work with the Libs

07:08 Jan 26, Australia's annual wound-salt-rubbing

15:30 ahistorical Scummo stuff - his 1788 ancestors; "re-enacting" Cook's voyage by circumnavigating Australia

27:27 Heatwave, coal fails, and lunatic senator trying to damage national power grid

35:29 Sleazy Scummo returns

37:38 Gross Scummo making another tragedy about himself

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00:01:20 Unprecedented weather conditions aren't anything to worry about

00:02:45 Murray Darling just one of those things

00:10:57 Audit of Libs' dodgy $443m PLUS $86m GBR giveaway

00:14:38 Scummo's Quiet Australians

00:17:24 Boardgame corner

00:20:50 Scummo's 26 Jan culture war on councils

00:26:58 Disingenuous 25 Jan distraction

00:32:20 Suggestion for date

00:36:27 Renters rights - why shouldn't they be the same as mortgagees'?

00:39:46 Australia Vs Humanity (indigenous kids locked up, dying; deporting some whilst being resentful others "snub" us)

00:51:18 Ironic unsolicited text messages

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00:01:52 Howard cabinet papers: sabotaging kyoto, setting up the waterfront fight

00:10:55 War to defend negative gearing for investment properties: ABC buying the LNP's bullshit and repeating it; NSW tenancy rights

00:30:20 Nazis and Nazi-friendly senators in Melbourne

00:33:23 Australia Vs Humanity: "Execution not 'insurmountable' hardship")

00:37:34 Australia Vs Humanity: Department quizzing gay people on the details of their sex lives

00:41:20 WA still imprisoning people for fines - gofundme rescuing indig women

00:49:46 Palmer vs Twisted Sister

00:51:33 Scummo's silly two left feet thing: but far more embarrassing should be being praised by Trump

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00:01:15 Christmas Greetings from Centrelink

00:05:02 Destroying the Safety Net

00:11:44 The Daily Telegraph doesn't want you having sympathy for refugees

00:20:30 Why would you want to go back to Nauru if it's a hell hole? For pretty good reasons, it turns out

00:26:30 ALP on refugees - one small step forward, the rest just as monstrous as the Libs

00:29:12 The IPA and Senator Kitching

00:31:21 Denise finds the good news in Australia from 2018

00:41:31 Great Fans for the Reef

00:44:14 Dutton does some good

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Dutto explains how he'd like more fascism and less parliament

Scammo waits till he's shut down parliament to announce some of his stupid ideas

  • religious privilege to help Porteous (and booting gay kids off to a review, and nothing for gay teachers)

  • faux-CAC ("real teeth")

  • declaring war on Vic (a majority govt that just won an election) on education

And Pyne is excited by his new very expensive terrible fighter jets

AvH - the Murdoch press claims 40 of 300 refugees want to come back to Nauru from the US because Baron Waqa claims it. Does that prove Nauru is fine? Ha

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No time to do timestamps this week, but a bumper episode including

  • a heartwarming story as the ALP finds its courage and demonstrates it by giving the government crazy new powers for christmas

  • the Libs thrill punters with a final day of parliament like no other

  • the unhinging 1 - right-wing commentators vs Victoria

  • the unhinging 2 - right-wing commentators vs kids protesting climate change

  • Is "Scummo" okay?

  • Scummo swoops in to save Craig Kelly from the people and himself from looking quite as precarious

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No time to do time stamps (it's 1am Saturday) but an episode about the Libs just declaring war on migrants, and a closing moments look at what Victorians are facing in this weekend's election.

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02:20 politicising the Melbourne "terror" attack

11:51 the Vic LNP's plans to "address" violence which will make it worse

14:38 the Greens' problem with men being shit

21:46 sausages vs people's rights

30:00 the treasurer's smooth new video

36:52 ScoMo and Virgin's veteran brain fart

37:37 Barry O'Sullivan is wrong about everything, and also likes to randomly attack trans people

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00:01:15 Initial press reactions to Melbourne stabbing

00:04:25 Narre Warren people at risk of ACL at their homes

00:08:15 Sad story where rich boomers who inherit a house can't get more than $1.7m for it

00:10:46 Frydenberg trying to sell renters a really dumb lie

00:13:36 Jones and Morrison vs Trumble

00:19:18 Jones helps Morrison come up with his "fair dinkum power" line

00:21:00 Jones help Frydenberg come up with his dumb "rents will rise" lie

00:23:36 Sleazy Scott and the FM crews

00:30:28 We all like paying for Slomo's empty bus

00:35:24 When you can actually appeal to people's hip pocket, but feel gross doing it - the ACF chatting with the Guardian

00:42:44 How could cost of living be something that helps the Libs?

00:46:00 Australia Vs Humanity - Fran Kelly can see an upside to holding kids for 5 years; Scott Morrison says he cries on his knees

01:11:17 NSW Labor's wretched former leader Luke Foley is gone

01:16:04 Mark Latham's completely disastrous first few days with One Nation

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(Or, according to Google Translate, "Discrimen et odique", but it didn't work so well as a title.)

00:01:33 Matthew Guy wants to bring back religious instruction classes

00:05:15 The Vic Libs want to Get Back In Control... of the state they're entitled to rule. Also their continence.

00:08:03 Sydney Anglican Schools demand right to bully and oppress LGBTI staff; and a single Nationals MP is very angry with them for it; just wanting LGBTI people to accept being second-class citizens

00:12:16 Brandon Selic Stuck in my Craw - the Libs stealing NDIS money for drought relief

00:18:01 Sir Humphrey's Four Step Process for (not) dealing with climate change

00:19:32 Barnaby wants us to address drought like Pharaoh

00:22:16 The Libs stealing indigenous advancement money to fight against land rights

00:23:40 Tony Abbott genuinely surprised that indigenous people find him joking about "invasions" unfunny

00:25:30 Half a billion dollars for the Australian War Memorial

00:29:23 Sky News's racism problem continues - Ross Cameron attacks Chinese people

00:33:02 Australia vs Humanity - George Brandis (yes, really) claims they'll have all kids off Nauru by the end of the year. But where, and in what conditions, and why should we believe anything they claim.

00:34:12 Brazil - as the new govt prepares to bulldoze large parts of the Amazon, Australian intrasigence on climate change renders us mute

00:36:00 Fair Dinkum Power

00:36:38 Brazil - what it tells us about the rise of fascism

00:40:38 Treasurer Josh Frydenberg thinks the idea of going back to the old system of rich people who don't pay tax not being given extra cash for owning shares by taxpayers

00:44:04 Rubella eradicated in Australia

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00:01:20 Wentworth and minority government

00:06:41 Scott Morrison still wants LGBTI kids expelled

00:11:36 "Non-rainy day" fund for drought - which after recording we discover is funded by stealing from the NDIS

00:13:56 Is there finally hope for Scott Morrison's child hostages on Nauru?

00:36:40 Scott Morrison's cool power twitvid

00:52:54 Scott Morrison's idea of negotiations

01:00:30 Nuclear power!

01:02:58 Xenophobia in the states

01:04:00 Forcing people to regions

01:14:45 Apology to abuse survivors

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00:01:00 Summary

00:04:20 Liberals' special week as incompetent boobs: voting for Hanson's white power motion an "administrative error"; new environment minister mocks Pacific Islands; Scummo thinks science is a lot more Faith-y than it is; Nats trying to bring back Barnaby

00:18:03 the Libs' weird decision to invite a war with the arab world in an attempt to win Wentworth

00:27:12 more leaks of the Ruddock Review confirming that it really is solely about LGBTI-bashing and not "religious freedom"

00:36:20 Australia vs Humanity - Nauru kicks out senior Australian doctor; Morrison floats sending refugee children to NZ, but only if Labor signs off on another power grab for the xenophobes

00:42:07 positive things: Ellis Defence removed; abortion decriminalised in Queensland; ACL very unhappy.

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Links:

To support marriage equality in Taiwan against an effort to ban it - https://donorbox.org/chip-in-defend-marriage-equality-in-taiwan

To assist poor women with access to menstrual products -

https://www.sharethedignity.com.au

Omelas - http://www.mccc.edu/pdf/eng102/Week%209/Text_LeGuin%20Ursula_Ones%20Who%20Walk%20Away%20From%20Omelas.pdf

00:01:09 Flogging off the Sydney Opera House - Alan Jones, Gladys Berejiklian, and Scott Morrison vs the Opera House and the people of NSW;

00:09:58 The safe space after Alan Jones bullies Louise Herron

00:13:51 The safe space after Alan Jones' fauxpology

00:18:24 The safe space after the last excerpt where you might hear Alan Jones's voice

00:22:55 The Ruddock Review leak - step too far for Hinch, then Bolt, then a backdown from Morrison and even the ACL; Morrison contradicts Cormann claiming Cabinet was considering the report; possibility that the conservatives' plot may backfire and result in fixing long-standing discrimination against LGBTI kids and staff in schools

00:32:21 Kristin O'Connell tells us what's stuck in her craw - American conservative cash promoting right-wing causes here

00:35:00 Australia's idiotic response to the IPCC report; Morrison thinks what happens on Earth doesn't affect Australia; Australia to definitely miss Paris targets; JR Hennessy suggests we stop listening on climate change to people who know they won't be around to see the worst

00:41:44 Cheeky Scamp Watch - LNP schemes of the week. You've got to keep your eyes on those naughty little chappies! $3.2bn in corporate tax cuts for LNP supporters, and the fiction of trickle-down vs trickle up; remember the reverse ratchet

00:46:48 Australia vs Humanity: Aboriginal woman fined $500 for stealing $6 box of tampons;

00:52:04 Australia vs Humanity: CDP cruelty to expand;

00:56:20 Australia vs Humanity: Medecins sans Frontieres exiled from Nauru; Omelas

00:59:58 Victoria to stop forcing trans married people to divorce

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Kristin joins Jeremy (who has stuffed up his Zoom settings and is accidentally recording with the internal mic rather than the proper mic in front of him) to discuss trains, kinders, shonky arrangements between conservatives and Nauru, and (for some unfathomable reason in the middle), political boardgames.

00:01:30 Remembering the Reverse Ratchet

00:05:11 Guy can do trains too, he totally can, he's a train guy!

00:10:50 ALP promising three year old kindergarten; Virginia Trioli inconveniently remembering the children the ALP's abandoning on Nauru

00:17:30 The Australian government's "sovereignty of Nauru" pathetic excuse for ignoring court orders and blocking media, and uncovered departmental documents confirming what a lie that is.

00:23:20 ALP starts admitting Coalition policies they'll ape, like having a monstrous combined Home Affairs department

00:25:15 Bill Leak Jr, media regulation; legal aid; progressive policies that actually improve the economy, vs conservative cuts that cost money. How do these things flow into each other? Somehow!

00:30:04 SIMC - Erin Riley - treatment of and developments in women's sport

00:32:30 What the hell is competitive Tetris, and can you make an entertaining boardgame about Australian politics

00:40:22 We'll try to do a better job of remembering the people not in the room

00:43:50 This week in racism news - indigenous communities being ignored as their water supply is contaminated with uranium; when fundraising is used to makeup for government failures

00:48:30 ABC update - Guthrie sacked, Milne resigned, board in the crosshairs - and the Coalition, with its shonky process of appointing mates

00:51:30 the quiet bit of the podcast, the Friday before the Grand Final, where we can slip out without too much noise that Australia's carbon emissions have skyrocketed since the Coalition scrapped the carbon price

00:52:28 Liberal Party in Wentworth attack Kerryn Phelps for having the poor judgment to preference them.

00:55:10 The Nauru/Australia agreement on silencing the media about refugees

00:56:00 Hobart Supreme Court upholds anti-discrimination protections against homophobic bigots

00:57:22 "Tampon Tax" to finally go

00:58:38 Four day work week news from NZ

Apologies for Jeremy's audio quality (he foolishly hit the button that disconnected the external mic, so instead ended up recording from the internal mics) and the mix (excerpts in particular) is a bit less balanced than we'd like, as we've run out of time to edit before Sunday night. We figure in the choice between two days' delay and some slightly wonky audio balance for the excerpts. Hopefully we made the choice you prefer.

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00:01:10 Scott "I've just learned not to care, and I really don't" Morrison, ordinary bloke with a mortgage, and a trophy he made himself about stopping boats.

00:09:15 Robert Manne's depressing proposal to give up and make a hideous trade with the right - compassion for the refugees in our gulags, in exchange for accepting the brutality of dragging other refugees out to sea

00:24:20 Liberal Party might consider quotas for women if Labor hadn't had them first, ruining the idea FOREVER

00:36:00 To hell with needs-based funding, ScoMo gives bonus billions to the nation's richest schools

00:45:58 "Religious freedom" sounds so much nicer than "religious privilege", doesn't it. And then a philosophical debate about the limits of religious rights.

01:07:02 September - the time when a young Prime Minister's mind turns to a national holiday in January. And floating an insincere complementary "indigenous day". And when right-wing culture warriors (like the Nationals' Bridget McKenzie) are a bit confused about the basics of the right-wing culture they want to impose on us.

Links

VicVotes Fire Services Primerhttps://medium.com/@ebatruth/vicvotes-fire-services-primer-b91dcb28f096

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Episode 64 - Two Jobs (feat Denise Pirko)

00:00:58 Win for tenants in Victoria

00:03:16 Malcolm Gunning's "get two jobs" solution for renters

00:11:50 Morrison following up "gender whisperer" nonsense with a call for parents to override teachers

00:16:12 9 year old student stands against stupid patriotism, is supported by her parents against teachers...

00:17:55 ...is abused by fuckwits Alan Jones and Mark Latham

00:20:45 ...is threatened with violence by fuckwit Pauline Hanson

00:33:02 Scott Morrison's demand for religious privileges to discriminate against LGBTI people, which sound nicer when you call them "religious freedom"

00:40:30 Dutton, the man who controls the collection of all your data, likes to keep it to use to attack anyone who criticises him

00:42:39 The awful cashless "welfare" card to be spread even further, notwithstanding all the trials it's failed

00:43:54 Mark Knight, still a shithouse cartoonist, now world-renowned as an abysmal racist

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00:01:30 A PM whose "skin curls" thinking about trans kids being supported

00:20:47 Morrison trying to invoke Menzies in Albury

00:21:54 Morrison rails against entitled young people who greedily squander their income on extravagances like 21st century rent

00:31:00 Dutton's weird "hey I've got all this dodgy stuff I've been covering up, but if you're mean to me I'll just let it out everywhere" defence

00:34:08 What Victorian doesn't want to pay $2.5m to get Matthew Guy out of some political embarrassment?

00:40:51 For a libertarian, Mark Latham sure does like being publicly owned

01:03:10 Chelsea Manning stopped from speaking in Australia

01:05:43 Victorian parliament passes, unamended, residential tenancy reform that actually improves renters' rights (we didn't know that was the outcome when we recorded)

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So Malcolm Turnbull has gone! (That's good.)

But he's been replaced by Scott Morrison. (That's bad.)

Peter Dutton has also had his ambitions destroyed! (That's good.)

But he's still in charge of torturing refugees. (That's very bad.)

Julie Bishop has ended her career too! (That's good.)

Australian voters feel like they've eaten potassium benzoate. (That's, well, how we usually feel.)

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Dave and Jeremy invite the old SomethingWonky effect by recording on #libspill on Wednesday night...

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02:07 Fraser Anning shames the 19 people who voted for him

11:48 Sky Nazis

12:50 Christopher Pyne is happy to pretend to be afraid of "African gangs", just give him a second take

16:16 Victorian government fascistly refuses to promote network that features fascists, which is totally fascism.

19:19 Jeremy already didn't like Mark Knight's witless cartoons

26:26 A WA cartoonist produces something even more racist than the Knight cartoon

29:40 Andrew Bolt wants everyone to assimilate, which is why he's going to move away from the ghetto of rich white people in which he lives and go and live with poor refugees.

35:20 We're bullying refugee kids into catatonia

39:00 Heat poverty

41:48 Vic govt finally puts out bill improving tenants' rights, prompting a campaign against it by land rats.

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03:45 Dutton recalls 2001

07:50 Dutton's parallel universe "African gangs"

11:35 Pyne forgets the narrative

18:54 Non sequitur corner - hack commercial media assume population growth is due to "migration", even when they're reporting it actually isn't.

29:02 Albo betrays everyone

36:20 Labor? THIS APING THE COALITION ON BRUTALISING REFUGEES ISN'T WORKING FOR YOU. Here are some suggestions on the only real way out of this for you.

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Cutting another huge hole in the safety net; when provoking outrage and drawing in the dribbling misogynists is a strategy to save your senate seat; Nauru helping the Libs out by keeping the ABC at bay.

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$144bn of tax cuts, the vast majority to go to the rich, and with the media not bothering to ask the government what precisely they're going to slash to pay for it (other than squeezing $240m from uni graduates on less than the median income) - a bumper discussion on everything to do with this devastating week for the future of our country.

Featuring the Turnbull government and their

*Shameless nonsense about "aspiration"

*lies about "bracket creep"

*fake charity

*profound, arrogant contempt for ordinary people working hard but on little remuneration.

And some thoughts on how to fight it.

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00:01:00 the stupidity and chilling effect of the Gerry Harvey tariff

00:06:43 150m exclusion zone around NSW abortion clinics not chilling at all

00:08:27 "foreign interference" laws' chilling effect on oversight of security services

00:11:33 s44 is stupid and needs fixing. Chilling.

00:13:46 NSW chillingly contemplating giving corporations the right to sue for defamation

00:18:13 seniors predominantly conservative bc poverty kills the rest, such as during winter chills

00:19:16 NEG debate within the coalition - no chill at all

00:24:05 Striking BoM staff predict a big chill... in their ability to survive a five year pay freeze.

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01:21 Not going to talk about Barnaby, Michaelia, Pauline

04:40 ...although Burston supporting the LNP's corporate tax cuts is a worry

09:11 LNP abolishing the family court

15:00 Public service can now leak your private information to save their political masters embarrassment if you criticise them

20:18 A third of robodebt appeals reveal debt not owed

22:24 minimum wage raised; retail association complains

23:50 shitty things retail sector is up to - franchisors, payday lending

27:05 Sheep

29:18 Australia vs Humanity: refugee dies, department leaks to smear him before even telling his wife he's dead

30:18 4 year hole in safety net for migrants: it hurts all of us

32:02 School chaplains - both sides admit they proselytise

33:29 Vic parliament affirms "advancement of religion" as charity, even though it's clearly not

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01:43 ScoMo's 2018 Budget - the ratchet returns

06:18 Mob Justice

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$50m for Captain Cook memorial; $500m for war memorial including "stop the boats" sailors; The Oz vs female PMs having kids; the Libs making it easier to sack people unfairly; Julia Banks reckons she can live on $40 a day. Surely they're trolling us. And Australia Vs Humanity returns.