Cult Talk with Erin Martin: Recent Episodes

Erin Martin

Erin Martin was born in a cult. Now she’s obsessed with learning about cults from the people who know them best: Survivors. Cult Talk takes you inside ex-cult members’ stories one group at a time, one survivor at a time. Cult Talk: a conversation, not an investigation. 


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To wrap up season one of Cult Talk, cult expert and author Diane Benscoter joins us to share her story of joining the Moonies, how brainwashing works, and why coercive control is so damaging to and powerful over those in its grip. (Part 2 of 2)

Segments:

  • A Rape of the Soul
  • You Own Prison Guard
  • Helping At-Risk People

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To wrap up season one of Cult Talk, cult expert and author Diane Benscoter joins us to share her story of joining the Moonies, how brainwashing works, and why coercive control is so damaging to and powerful over those in its grip. (Part 1 of 2)

Segments:

  • Joining the Moonies
  • Psychological Chains
  • Assaulted

Find Diane's memoir, Shoes Of A Servant on Amazon, or anywhere you buy books.

Follow Diane on Twitter.

Watch Diane's "Own Your Brain" video series on YouTube.

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Darlene Griffith joined COBU when it was in its infancy and known by its original name, The Forever Family. It's there that she met her husband, slowly realized Stewart's false teachings, and ultimately, found her way out of the group. (Part 2 of 2)

  • I Was My Own Counselor
  • The Paradox
  • Why Are They So Special?

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Darlene Griffith joined COBU when it was in its infancy and known by its original name, The Forever Family. It's there that she met her husband, slowly realized Stewart's false teachings, and ultimately, found her way out of the group. (Part 1 of 2)

  • A Spiritual Longing
  • Transitioning From God to Stewart
  • A House of Cards

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David Patteson joins Erin to discuss his memories of COBU and what led him to create a new graphic novel about his time among Stewart Trail's "sheep." (Part two of two)

Segments:

  • Becoming A Ghost
  • Leaving COBU and Finding The Middle Ground
  • Writing The Book

Find David's graphic novel "The Cult" on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Cult-True-Story-David-Patteson/dp/0999725467


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David Patteson joins Erin to discuss his memories of COBU and what led him to create a new graphic novel about his time among Stewart Trail's "sheep." (Part one of two)

Segments:

  • Is This Guy In A Cult?
  • A Hole That Needs To Be Filled

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Erin talks to Tod Burros about his experience in the Church of Bible Understanding (COBU) cult. (Part 2 of 2)

  • A Vicious Circle
  • Learning To Be Human
  • Was Stewart a Sociopath?

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Erin talks to Tod Burros about his experience in the Church of Bible Understanding (COBU) cult. (Part 1 of 2)

  • A Testimony of My Experience
  • The Big Lie
  • A Kind and Gentle Reprogramming
  • A Prayer Group

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Erin talks to Catherine Armstrong about her 12 years in the Church of Bible Understanding (COBU) cult. (Part 2 of 2)

  • "When You’re Ready to Get Serious With Jesus"
  • What Happens Now?

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Erin talks to Catherine Armstrong about her 12 years in the Church of Bible Understanding (COBU) cult. (Part 1 of 2)

  • Recruiting into COBU
  • Color Ranking and Getting Out
  • Going Back and trying to be “The Right Woman"

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Erin talks to James LaRue about his 14 years in the Church of Bible Understanding (COBU) cult. James is currently an artist and author who writes about his experiences in the COBU and explores the psychology of “total institutions” – a concept applied by cults throughout history, and a framework that makes it very difficult for members to escape. (Part 2 of 2)

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James’ website: Everything You Wanted to Know About COBU (But Were Afraid to Ask)

James’ Facebook Page: Cobu Stories on Facebook

Find James’ books Amazon: Captive Congregation & The Tangled Web

Explore James’ artwork: James LaRue Illustrations


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Erin talks to James LaRue about his 14 years in the Church of Bible Understanding (COBU) cult. James is currently an artist and author who writes about his experiences in the COBU and explores the psychology of “total institutions” – a concept applied by cults throughout history, and a framework that makes it very difficult for members to escape. (Part 1 of 2)

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James’ website: Everything You Wanted to Know About COBU (But Were Afraid to Ask)

James’ Facebook Page: Cobu Stories on Facebook

Find James’ books Amazon: Captive Congregation & The Tangled Web

Explore James’ artwork: James LaRue Illustrations


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My mother, Judy, tells the story of leaving COBU for good and what "regular" life was like afterward.

Chapters:

  • Leaving the COBU at last
  • What do we do now?

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My mother, Judy, begins her escape from COBU with our family...only to return once more.

Chapters:

  • Leaving the First Time
  • Haiti

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My mother, Judy, starts to see the warning signs of Stewart’s control & abuse.

Chapters:

  • A Slow Drip / Family Unit
  • Why Can't Stewart Be Like That?
  • Stewart Gets Divorced

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My mother, Judy, discusses her early days in COBU, meeting my father, living communally, and the day to day life of a COBU member.

Chapters:

  • Early Days
  • Early Warning Signs
  • Stewart Traill (and the master plan)
  • Starting to Grow (move to Baltimore and Erin is born)
  • The Manhattan Training Center
  • Christian Brothers Carpet Cleaning

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My mother, Judy, talks about the 1960s environment in suburban PA she found herself in at the end of high school, what factors led her to search for something different than the world in which she was raised, and how she found "The Forever Family."

Chapters:

  • Eyes Opening to the World
  • Act of Rebellion
  • Normal Life Before Joining
  • Awaking to Christianity
  • Finding the Family

Source Material: https://www.culteducation.com/group/1210-church-of-bible-understanding/21586-on-the-traill-difficult-to-peg-reclusive-lead.html

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Erin Martin was born in a cult called the Church Of Bible Understanding (COBU), led by vacuum repairman-turned-cult leader, Stewart Traill. Now she’s obsessed with learning about cults from the people who know them best: other survivors. Cult Talk takes you inside ex-cult members’ stories one group at a time, one survivor at a time. In season one, listen to stories from Erin's mother, other ex-COBU members, as well cult authors and experts. Learn more about the COBU, its leader, and how Erin's parents found themselves drawn to the strange cult they'd eventually leave forever.


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