Emma Ashford and Trevor Thrall chat with Peter Singer of New America about his new novel Burn In,and why fiction can be useful for our understanding of national security policy. 

• Peter Singer bio, https://www.newamerica.org/our-people/peter-warren-singer/
• Burn In: A Novel of the Real Robotic Revolution, https://www.burninbook.com/
• Surveillance Takes Wing: Privacy in the Age of Police Drones, Matthew Feeney, https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/surveillance-takes-wing-privacy-age-police-drones
• How Drones are Changing Warfare, Cato Unbound, https://www.cato-unbound.org/issues/january-2012/how-drones-are-changing-warfare